well am glad this is brought up here and Jon has helped out to clarify some points however what if you make an assumption and you don't know how to follow it up, such as the girl responds says she is from Paris or Milan...I don't know much about Paris, what do you say

You still have to make a statement based on her answer or you will be just jumping from topic to topic which means you wont be in a proper conversation. People may think they dont know anything about her answer but if she said 'Paris' for example im sure something will come into your head! You could say "I dont know anything about Paris but I imagine........." you can say anything and she will then tell you about it.

I don't want to keep on making assumption which are wrong, surely that is bad right to get it wrong...

It doesn't make a difference. If you get it wrong then she will give you the correct answer and you can go from there using the new information she has gave you.

Good job mate for having the motivation to try that!

I honestly think guys getting used to watching porn- sometimes on a daily basis is the main problem.
Like what has been said before, it's desensitising us to the real thing!

Guys will only realise this however when they are with a girl for the first time or after long period of time when all they have been used to is watching a girl on screen so when they are with a real girl they may wonder why they are not a turned on as they should be.

Is my question is: Does she not want the same as me, and just try to postpone it to sort of avoid it being too serious? Or is she just a very busy girl?
Thanks guys

To be honest mate it sounds as though she is not too keen, but you never know. Sure, get in contact with her again around December time to try and sort out another date but if she still is not able to then I would just forget about it.

At the end of the day I think you need to get out there and APPROACH OTHER GIRLS! You are getting to hung up on one girl which is never a good thing- the best thing you can do is get out there and meet other girls as either way it is going to make you feel better and it will also make you realise this one girl is nothing special.

Trust me on this, we have all been there. Even if she does want to meet there is a good chance you may come across too needy because all of this time you are thinking about her and ways to get her. Im not saying this to be harsh as it has happened to all of us but you really need to get your abundant mindset going and not to worry about any one girl. If you were out approaching and meeting other girls then you wouldnt even be posting this thread up on the forum as you really would not be phased by this.

Im just talking from experience as this has happened to all of us when we were younger/less experienced. Now that I have been actively approaching for the past 2 years if a girl flakes or doesnt seem interested I really do not care about it as I just carry on with what I was doing and will just go out and meet other girls.

Seriously, just get out there!

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Hey man thats really cool of you. I went to Budapest back in July for a week for some daygame and had a great time!

The girls were stunning but I found it a bit tricky tbh. Some didnt speak much English and some where  a bit defensive to a direct street approach. Still a good place for daygame though

Lol no its not a computer game. Has about 15 videos.

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Nice one mate. I personally see it is a lot more important to stop watching porn than to stop masturbating but you should definitely give it a go. It is going to be a lot harder if you are single though lol!

Porn is the biggest problem as it is basically desensitizing us to the real thing without us realizing it.