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Actions & Techniques (Outer Game) / Re: what do you do for persistence?
« on: September 09, 2012, 10:47:25 PM »
Thanks Ruma, I was thinking what to do when she doesn't give you the boyfriend objection just simply say to you that she's gtg?

It is normal for girls to do that and it happens alot. I think they are the ones who's single but don't want to appear easy. I think I should go "wait, wait, where are you from?" or something like that, lol

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Actions & Techniques (Outer Game) / what do you do for persistence?
« on: August 31, 2012, 08:36:11 AM »
During day time there are so many girls with boyfriends or in a rush or just not interested. I think it is very important to persist but only the right ones. This is just like in sales basically and with more experience you will know when and which ones. I think if a girl been standing there and listened your whole opener and then few seconds later decide to move on like "sorry, I've got to go" then it could be that she's single but don't know how to handle it.

I had a little realisation recently about this. I was getting "I've got a BF" all the time. It happens so often that I was ignoring other potential ones becuase I always let them go when they want to move on. So I'm just wondering what you guys do to persist when that happens. any tips or advice would be great:)

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The Sofa / Re: Dealing with friction from family about doing daygame
« on: August 18, 2012, 10:33:17 PM »
what do you still live with your parents? wtf?

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The Sofa / Re: Yad doesn't go direct
« on: August 03, 2012, 10:47:52 PM »
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Yad isn't direct because you don't want him to be direct.

there's a difference and I have no idea why you think direct is about her and that is it. I can easily make an observasion about her but without letting her know that I'm interested. You can't call it direct if the girl don't know you're interested.

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Amazin:

Does it really matter to you, even though as you said it's just your observation ?

this is imo a BIG deal. I'm not trying to make a mountain out of a pebble here. Think about it, when you go direct, its pretty much a yes or no straight away. Therefore your value is judged based on your looks, body language, confidence and energy etc. You most likely get 4 types of reactions, she's interested and open, smile but walking away, got a boyfriend or just blow you out.

Can you imagine an overweight, hairy and spotty Yad going direct? He must've been getting 1000s of blown out before he realise that he need to change his approach. Most people who gets into game are not good looking, confident or good body language. Therefore most of the times we get nowhere and we have approach lots. By keep the compliement vague and quickly transition onto something else more interesting seem to be the way to go.

Do you all understand what I'm trying to say? Yad is not telling what he's actually does.

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The Sofa / Re: Yad doesn't go direct
« on: July 29, 2012, 12:48:22 AM »
ok thanks for feedback guys, appreciate it. I would like to add something on top of all the points being made.

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There's a difference between being direct and being overly honest that I feel like a lot of people don't get or have trouble seperating. Being direct doesn't have to be about approaching a girl and telling he every dirty thing you want to do to her off the bat. Sure, that IS direct, but it's also over the top.

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Direct: the topic is about her
Indirect: the topic isn't

You're right, there is no need to be overly honest like mode one. You might need to approach tons of women that way and there is little room for practise talking to women. At same time, how can you call it direct if the girl is unsure of your intention? that you have a romantic interest in her? Lot of Yad's opening is based on observations and very light hearted compliements which can be interpreted in so many different ways and that is NOT direct. In another word, he is being ambiguous and neutral which is very low pressure for the girl.

I hope you didn't just made up those definitions. It is very possible to be talking about her and still be indirect. In one of MM videos, Mystery mentioned that he opened few sets by stick his middle finger up at them and told them they suck.

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here's the thing, you're coming and looking at the wrong things, you're focus can not be on the detail but on the whole picture, I use to think this but i got got a lot more experience to understand what's more important to focus on, see you have to understand what is actually going on...look at yads vibe, and tonality, the eye conatct, and the confidence is like off the chart. all yad is doing by open is saying "hey, stop and listen" he's just being "cheeky verbally, that's all.

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this IS natural game, why? because that's the process EVERYONE(atleast the ones that end in sex or relationship. and the ones that arent cold approaches) goes through.

lol, Yad is not direct, you're the one who is "trying" to see it as direct.

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The Sofa / Yad doesn't go direct
« on: July 27, 2012, 12:46:05 AM »
Been watching lot of daygame blueprint lately and something I have noticed about Yad, he doesn't actually go direct. Instead, he keep it ambiguous so girls can't disqualifies him straight away because they're not sure about his intent.

e.g. Yad: "I just think I should come over and say Hi because...(pause) we are wearing the same coloured shirts and you...(pause) look like you're from a cold country. e.g. Yad: "excuse me, sorry for stopping you but I just want to say that you look really really nice. (then observational opener)"

This is something I don't like about daygame.com and many other professionals in whatever field:

"what they teach and what they actually do are completely different"

Same with top Poker players, they tell you to only play premium cards, be patient and stay cool but then they go off and do something opposite. When Andy was explaining the importance of being non-apologetic, he then showed a video of Yad approaching different girls with "excuse me, sorry for stopping you, can I say something quickly?" Some of you may argue that it is not about the content but all about sub communication which I agree, but they should mention that. They also claim to be teaching direct and authentic natural game and yet Yad doesn't go direct himself. By direct I mean when the intent is expressed upfront so the woman know what you want right away.

Now we all know Yad is not attractive look wise so I think that explains alot why he had find an alternative way to get around that. He must've realised that after years of doing it. Now, if you look like a male model then you're more likely to get the girl to stay and talk to you even if they have a bf or not interested. If you look like a Yad however and go direct with sub-communication of "I think you're beautiful and I want a date with you" then he will get blown outs or get disqualified. This is because a judgement/decision is made BEFORE he was able to demonstrate anything else. So keeping it vague and quickly transition into something more interesting will give him more opportunities.   

Like or not, game is a numbers game just like in sales. Some sales gurus argue that you must not think like that because you will miss out lot of opportunities same applies to daygame so we should make the most out of each girl we approach. We can't do that if we approach them in a way where we don't have a chance to demonstrate any else because they are forced to make a decision on the spot.

So maybe direct is not the best way to go?

Its just an observation. what do you all think?

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thats wonderful to know!!!

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The Sofa / Re: daygame blog
« on: July 08, 2012, 10:30:19 AM »
hello mate, I just bookmarked it. I'm also a poker player but a losing/break even one, lol

are you in London?

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The Sofa / Re: An honest review of Justin Wayne
« on: July 08, 2012, 10:18:04 AM »
is this a spam?

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The Sofa / Re: I am 41 and I am attracted by a 21 years old girl
« on: July 01, 2012, 11:51:29 PM »
good luck

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The Sofa / Re: can't do daygame because my thighs are too fat
« on: June 29, 2012, 10:16:28 PM »
i think you're talking rubbish

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I think you need to be one (in terms of value) in order to keep one for the long term, sounds vague I know.

Look at the top PUAs, how many of them have a 10? I can't think of any

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Daygame Blueprint / Daygame blueprint DVD?
« on: June 05, 2012, 08:38:15 PM »
Is it possible to get it on DVD?

My internet connect is pretty bad so ideally I want it on DVD rather than just a password

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The Sofa / Re: Tom Torero
« on: June 05, 2012, 08:16:06 PM »
he sounds so manipulative in the video on the main page. Not getting rejected again, yeeeahh right, lol

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any idea how much "adventures of JW" will cost? is it out yet?

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