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Actions & Techniques (Outer Game) / Re: Some guys preach going indirect during the day
« on: October 14, 2012, 02:49:51 PM »
Quote from: craze6663 on September 30, 2012, 07:43:55 PM
You guys are to much importance on the verbal, vibe comes first....

I've done pretty well when I've gone indirect verbally but with good (sensual)eye contact and a direct vibe.....I don't buy the whole direct vs indirect openers, it all comes down to your vibe.

absolutely. one thing i would say is that women know their shit when it comes to subcommunications far more than men. unless you do indirect 'right', eg subcommunicating your intentions thru vibe, eye contact etc, then you are probably coming off as either creepy or weird. 

i like the direct approach for the very reason that you are being socially calibrated and showing that you are a man of action. if she's a genuinely hot girl she probably gets so many guys checking her out in the street, eye-balling her. just the fact that you have stepped up and approached in a genuine and honest way is, 9 times out of 10, displaying major value.

but how many guys come on to her indirectly during that day ? fucking loads i bet. merely being direct (if done with a degree of class) gives you a hell of a platform to build on that you dont get by other methods

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The Sofa / Re: After a Year In Field, some Revelations about Day Game
« on: October 14, 2012, 12:53:07 PM »
Quote from: spinaroonie on October 12, 2012, 10:13:14 PM
In my experience with day game only about 1 in 10 approaches resulted in a date. Although this sounds good when written down, in reality it involves:

- The tough emotional cost of being in a cold selling like sales push. Some guys will deny that this exists, but once you step off the internet and into real life you have to deal with this, which makes me believe that the guys who are denying it are actually just theorizing on the internet.

- The time taken to arrange to go out with wings in order to support each other in this tough emotional environment.

- Lots of days where you get no numbers.

- Time taken sitting in Starbucks to give yourself and your wings a break from the tough emotional cost of approaching.

- Time between approaches. Our day game sessions often had to span several hours for us to do 5 approaches each.

- The cost of spending your day off wandering around the city center trying to cold sell your cock that you could have spent doing something that you actually enjoy.

- Day game is particularly tough because women will automatically rule you out right from the very start simply because you're a random guy off the street that might be a weirdo. For her, the risk is high, she just doesnt know you and who really approaches like that that anyway?

- Never equate getting a girl's phone number with her level of sexual interest. Some say that a girl is less likely to flake from day game simply because she is sober and will remember you as it was such a unique encounter. The truth in many cases is she'll flake because it all comes back to you being some random guy that came up to her out of nowhere that she knows zilch about and spoke to for only 5 minutes.

- There are loads of variables. While some of it is dependent on your vibe, body language etc. That's completely not the case. In the end it's all down to the woman. It's all because of her mood, and him catching her at the right time when she was up for talking/going on a date etc.

- A lot of daygame is based upon luck. Right time, right place, right guy, right girl. Finding that right combination can be like finding a needle in a haystack.

- A lot of guys are not being real. They go out and project themselves as an awesome guy when they have only half developed themselves into a solid person. The woman subconsciously realises this just by looking into his eyes but can't rationalise it because he's saying awesome things so she later flakes.

- A lot of guys do day game exclusively because they don't want to deal with rejection - they say girls in clubs are bitches etc. In reality, when they get a number via day game most guys think they are progressing when in fact the rejection comes later in the form of a flake. This very low conversation rate makes more sense. All those flaky numbers are rejections which in night game would happen after 2 minutes.

- Moral of the story - keep rolling the dice gentleman. The more you do, the more you'll get laid!

On the plus side:

- Day game will SKYROCKET your night game. It's more common to get rejected and flaked on during the day as opposed to night because the context isn't geared towards dating during the day time. People are out doing something.

At night, it's pretty obvious why people are there. Girls are expected to get hit on and most are there to hook up. On the last 3 occasions I've been out at night I eventually hooked up with a girl. If I compare that during the day time, I have to approach a handful of girls to at least get traction with one or a number that doesn't flake with a possibility of a date later on.

Day time approaching is without a doubt the best way to build a foundation. If you can approach girls during the day, approaching at night will be a piece of cake. I've done a lot of daygame in my time, very flaky only a few results. But I did benefit with learning how to have the balls to approach women completely sober, so I quit drinking as a result and my night game has become more efficient.

reading this makes me wonder whether you are actively learning from your mistakes/areas that you need to work on. i just cant see how 1 year regularly approaching girls, whilst evaluating and consciously working on weakness', wouldn't see solid improvements. 

how much have you changed about what you are doing since day 1 ?

if you are just going and doing the same approach time and time again then it will be a numbers game. no offence but with the tone and sort of results you mention, i'd imagine that you could improve relatively simple aspects of your interactions and would see a big improvement. but i'm just speculating here...

ps are you actually enjoying doing this ? you seem quite down on it all - naturally that will be picked up subconsciously by the girls you speak to.

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The Sofa / Re: Where do you put "do you speak english" in an approach if abroad ?
« on: October 14, 2012, 12:15:14 PM »
funnily enough budapest is my neck of the woods, so thanks for that ;)

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The Sofa / Where do you put "do you speak english" in an approach if abroad ?
« on: October 13, 2012, 09:05:53 PM »
simple question really - Where do you put "do you speak English" in an approach when abroad ?

Is it the first thing you say before "I just saw you etc"


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The Sofa / Re: An Open Letter To Tom Torero
« on: March 19, 2012, 06:50:17 PM »
V.Kulla:

i'd echo the above sentiment - take the bootcamp, it's free, after all.  and as (i assume) an older guy (and from the tone of your posts, an intelligent and interesting one at that) you would add depth to the film i'm sure.

from my own personal experience i would say you have to just release the outcome of a situation and do it anyway. i approached a women in the shopping centre this weekend and used the trusty 'hi i saw you over there, you look really nice' even though moments before i spotted a wedding ring. i did it purely as i wanted to push myself through the usual excuses and just get in the frame of mind of doing shit for the sheer fuck-off-ness of it all (credit Ben Kingsley in Sexy Beast for that phrase). we chatted for a while, she was clearly flattered and loving it, said she was married but it had made her day, and seemed very genuine about it. it's nice to cut through the anonymity of modern life and do something like this, and people 99 times out of 100 will react positively to it - and if they dont it's probably them having a shit day/life anyways. 

look bro, you've read enough shit for it not being worth me citing various terms (but i'll throw in Outcome Independence for kicks). just do it - this Mode One (what the fuck does that mean, other than a marketting brand for just acting like a horny teenager) malarky is tacky - what girl worth her salt would go back to a guys house after 3 q's. sorry man, but it's WAAAAAAAAAAY less of a big deal telling a girl you think they are attractive - who wouldn't want to be told that ? 

the only other suggestion i would make is if you're not in a big city, jump on a train to somewhere where you feel anonymous. then get this monkey off your back, and throw the fucker into the sea.

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The Sofa / Re: You need approach-motivation -> seize the moment
« on: March 19, 2012, 06:29:12 PM »
i'm fucking doomed. i've been watching Leyton Orient since the age of 8.


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The Sofa / Re: An Open Letter To Tom Torero
« on: March 16, 2012, 02:54:11 PM »
v.kulla :

i think in your heart you know that you are faced with two options.

A) taking action.

or

B) giving this whole shit up for ever.

either way is equally valid. but the worst thing you can do is neither, and just keep trudging round, endlessly looking for women that your monkey mind sabotages you approaching at the last minute. all the while thinking 'no, fuck this i'm going to do it today...'

if you are thinking about approaching women as a priority for your day as you leave the house, then frankly it's just a massive waste of energy to NOT approach them.  in that time that you spend reading, thinking, analysing etc you could be learning a new language, painting, whatever-the-fuck. you say you've read PUA theory and gone from fad to fad, so really asking for more advice from a PUA site is really just more procrastination.

comes down to either choice A or choice B.

daygame purgatory is a bad place. this may sound harsh but to me at least it's true, shit or get off the pot my friend.

footnote:
you say you recovered from a serious illness - use that as a reference point. i dont want to risk patronising you, but if it was a potential life-threating one, then think 'what if i'd died - none of this would matter, all this would just be gravy - a bonus level at the end of a 1980's arcade game. lets just play this motherfucker for kicks and see what happens.' 

you beat that shit, this is a walk in the park mate.

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The Sofa / Re: Justin Wayne picks-up Angelina Jolie?...wtf??
« on: March 06, 2012, 11:45:15 PM »
buzz - fair play to you. i saw the thread and clicked on your posts and saw a lot about this guy and i assumed you were marketting for him or whatever.  when it comes to pick-up i enjoy reading the psychology aspect of it, but totally honestly when i'm out and doing it i try and put it all out of my (concious at least) mind and just have fun.


reading this shit is a kind of primer to an evening/day out, and that's cool, that's what it is for me rightly or wrongly, and i get good, consistent results. and thats why i like to check in ever so often and read up in between actually pulling. but i do also think there's a lot of snake-oil being sold out there too. yes there is some quality stuff out there (the podcast here for example) and i'm not knocking it at all.  but yeah, whatever and whoever it is, if it works for you then great.

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The Sofa / Re: Justin Wayne picks-up Angelina Jolie?...wtf??
« on: March 06, 2012, 10:00:02 PM »
that's what i'm saying bro. all this 'guru' shit is unhealthy, that's why i raised it. but hell, if it works for you then great, but the only way to improve your game is by getting out there. this pick up stuff is mostly about creating a perceived need (great new technique or product or whatever) and then flogging it. good luck to them for it, but drooling over some guy (i assume) you've never met, or had any contact with other than viewing heavily edited footage is not healthy.


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The Sofa / Re: Justin Wayne picks-up Angelina Jolie?...wtf??
« on: March 04, 2012, 09:14:35 AM »
buzzkill, all your posts are about this justin wayne guy. either you are marketing for him, the man himself, or some easily impressed fan-boy with a raging hard-on for the guy.

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The Sofa / Re: Step by step to actually do it
« on: February 28, 2012, 10:35:34 PM »
Quote from: Hoho on February 27, 2012, 07:12:09 PM
Hello!

First I just want to say that this wasent anything I came up with. I got this idea from one of the speakers in the daygame blueprint, Tom.

I know many guys out there (myself included) have an approaching anxiety and don?t know how to actually deal with it. I myslef have never approached a girl on the street. To be fair, I haven?t been in the community for a long time either.

But it really sucks to don?t approach when you want. And what I took from Toms speach was that you don?t need to face or concur your biggest fears right away. You can actually set up steps until you have done it.

So lets say that approaching anxiety is the number one reason why I don?t get good at daygame. Then I will do something like this:

Day one: Go out and look for attractive girls you would like to approach.

Day two: Imagine you walk towards and approach the girls while you get her eye contact.

Day three: Walk up to a random person and either give an compliment or ask for anything.

Day four: Just go up to a girl and say whats ever on your mind that second.

Day five: Try to open and compliment a girl

And you could make this list long or short just by how you feel that you want to break down this fear.

So my end goal would ofcourse be that I would go up and approaching a girl. Not just give a compliment but be honest with my approach and tell her why I want to talk to her.


Because if you just write like day one: Approach the girl. Then it becomes so much harder and you will probably end up not doing anything at all.


I just wanted to write this because I think it could help guys like me to success and actually do it!

sorry fella, but that's just a massive waste of time. if you're nervous you have to just accept it and roll with it. go over the top and make a direct approach with zero concerns about the outcome. i promise you it's not as daunting as you're making it by doing some huge build up in your head.

i can see there's a certain logic to your approach, but it's counter intuitive. by making such a big deal of it you're building it up way too much and creating more of an outcome dependency. just grasp the nettle and do it for your own personal amusement. keep that in mind and you'll be fine.

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Suggestions Box / best world-wide daygame destinations
« on: February 22, 2012, 10:40:43 PM »
as mentioned on the podcast, how about a breakdown of various city break destinations for daygame ?

factors :

1) approachability / openess of local girls.
2) aesthetics - you know what i'm talking about.
3) price of trip, hotel, beers etc.
4) bars, clubs, local scenes.
5) culture, general tourism vibe.

the whole daygame city break thing needs to be explored here fellas - as delia smith once said, lets be 'aving ya ;)

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The Sofa / Re: is this site withering on the vine ?
« on: February 22, 2012, 08:50:40 PM »
Quote from: Rumba! on February 22, 2012, 06:19:01 PM
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i dunno, just something to keep the punters coming back, as to be honest i drop in here every now and then, but scurry pretty sharpish back under my RSD rock when i find the daygame cupboard bare.

LOL! I love RSD too but I find most of the posters on their site just answer genuine questions with a "Hey man you should just grab her and f--k her!" type frat boy remarks.

I must admit I do worry when I see other Pua's offering the Daygame Blue Print video series which was free, for sale on their site but "as a favour enter this code and you can have it for free!" Now I know this is typical PUA marketing but it seems there's loads of features/posts/podcasts when there's a product/event to sell but afterwards things go very quiet; you guys could definitely learn from RSD in that respect!

Peace,
Rumba!  8)

yeah i hear you about the RSD forum - the instructor content is gold, but the forum posters lack a bit of class. which is why this site was cool, and frankly could do with a bit of a kick up the arse from the management.
 

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The Sofa / Re: is this site withering on the vine ?
« on: February 22, 2012, 05:38:40 PM »
rumba - you're right about peaks and troughs, and i guess the nature of daygame mean it is nightgames mellow cousin, but still feel there's scope for more management content here.  how about something like 'thought for the day', where every day one of the team post a short article ? or just log on and answer a couple of posts every so often. aint gonna kill em is it. i'm only saying this as i like the site, but feel it has a few issues that could be helped along.

i dunno, just something to keep the punters coming back, as to be honest i drop in here every now and then, but scurry pretty sharpish back under my RSD rock when i find the daygame cupboard bare.

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The Sofa / is this site withering on the vine ?
« on: February 22, 2012, 03:51:14 PM »
seems to be pretty flat on this forum these days - very little in terms of new content from the site managers, and old regular posters seem to have long since flown the nest.

tis a shame, as it has a nice vibe and the team seem a decent bunch, but recently i started looking at another site and the level of top quality regular content their instructors put on does kinda put this site to shame.

so c'mon fellas, step it up or risk losing your public. the podcasts are great, but a few posts a day here from yad, andy, tom etc would make a big difference to the content of the threads (some of which frankly seem like the blind leading the blind), and thus the site in general.  this would increase traffic to the site, which in economic terms would surely trickle down into your business. end result: everyone's a winner.

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