Sounds great man.

Openers are always subjective thingy things. I'm started to think that you can't tell people to do this , or to do that etc.

But maybe I'll try it once in a while. Just to get out of my comfort zone. And to deal with the fear, not the women.

"No matter how beautiful the women is they are not special, angelic creature, or goddess, they are not a gift, blessing, or privilege... They just... Piece of ass"

-RizkyM

"Want" and "needy" are essentially the same. Only "want" is more commanding when "needy" are more pathethic.

You SHOULDN'T care about that. All you should care about is just your objective.

I started to not really care at all if I was all needy, all I care is her answer. Yes or no. (Dave X's rule#1)

When I approached a women, all these different thoughts running on my mind...

Do I being alpha enough?
How is my body language?
Is there three IOI already?
Did she fidgeting?
How is my value demonstration?
Is everyone else watching?
Are they impressed?
Are they laughing at me?

Did you see how this tortures me? Let's put ourselves outta misery...

I know so many friends that always being a stalker, looking at the girl with such pathethic eyes... They were so afraid to talk to them that they need to get their number from their ugly friends. But yet some of them succeed and get the girl.

I got zero lay from daygame. Also got zero lay from nightgame. Heck if all I want is get laid I could easily get a hooker. No need to fuck around. do you know what asian hookers looks like? Exotic chocolate skin... Yummy. Lol

I think nightgame is easier because girls go out to club, for what? Of course, for your dick... They all want to get laid as well. So if you want to get laid and they want to get laid then you both get laid. Lol Girls are just sitting there, they don't need to run shit, we approach, and if they like us, they picked us up.

Easy lay, not for you. But for the girl. I will not be proud if I ever getting laid at a club. It's a common thing.

On a daygame it's a completely different thing, she could be working, she could be damn busy, she could had her final exam, or on her way to the hospital when her dad is dying. I think you'll be great when you could turn those urgent situations into instant dates.

It's not just about hard and easy difficulty level thing. I can't even begin to think to compare those two completely different situations.

If I was someone who has spent more than 10.000 $ on these motherfuckers who claimed that they know the secret of easily bedding the women within 5 minutes of meeting them, rejection-proof openers, and all those fucking stupid marketing spells that you have fallen into, and then later on I've found out that they are actually full of fucking shit, and none of that shit fucking work, then I would definately join the dark side.

Women are easy, really dude, all you need is courage.

Fucking balls. That's it.

She is there, and you are there, just go over and say hi.

I once read about some guy there who wrote a thread about being "ripped off" by some major dating company... Details are irrelevant, but Shit, I almost puke my ass off. Until now, I still can't believe how fucking stupid that guy was.

I once studied Mystery and his system, but hell, let me ask you,  can you control and manipulate something as complicated and as dynamics as social situation? That's fucking impossible. How the fuck did you do that? No matter how much DHV you have conveyed there is always someone who would interrupt or any other things that ruin your game, there is too much variables. All of which will only take you further away from the first thing that you want. A pussy.

I believe it should be easy... Really. Once a nerd forever a nerd. They tried to make things easier by making a system out of it. C'mon it's not math.

But can a nerd being loved by somebody? Yea sure. Why wouldn't? Why? If she doesn't want you for who you are, tell her to fuck off, go find someone else. No girl wants you? That is impossible. You just doesn't want the hard work. And if you doesn't want to work at it. You deserve no love. Now what work? Simple, hitting on girls and get embarassed, grow your balls. Until one of them wants to be with you.

I always think if girls thinks that I'm gay is because I act like one...

For god sake, Stop talking too much and stop touching her...But that just me, and it fucking work too.

If we don't know how to be a man, then of course they would perceive us as a gay.

Here is my 2 cents:

Just shake hands,introduce yourself,tell her your intentions, something like, "I want to spend my time with you in a romantic way", then instant date, or get her number and get off!

No matter how little your first interaction with her, there is no way she is gonna flake if you seriously tell her that you want her. If not, she
will reject you right away.

If some girls still thinks that this sweet beautiful approach is gay, then I am sure she is a fucking lesbian.

Re: Can one become daygame Master without training in nightclub?

The question itself is hilarious. I can't stop giggling. Really dude, wtf.

I am assuming you are referrring to it's stationary environtment. To grow balls, or to hone your conversational skills and physical escalation. In which at daygame is less needed. Either case, yes you'll get good without going there.

But if you can do direct approach at crowded night club on mixed four set with 3 dudes and one hot girl. Rejected or not you will be a killer. You can approach anywhere. I'm not brave enough to pull that stunt. Not yet...

I remember this is one of the Mystery's advise.

As soon as I get into the venue or the street I need to approach the first girl that I spotted. Doesn't matter if she is ugly/hot/old/young with direct/indirect. It'll get the ball rolling. And you will fell like you wanna talk to every girls that you see.

The first one is the hardest. And if you keep delaying and giving excuses to yourself for the first kick in the ass. You will be a dead meat.

There is no such thing as daygame at night

Hm, night street game?

You mean approaching normal girls (not bar/club girls) that just walking past you at nine or ten pm who might just came home from work or waiting for the late bus?

I don't know. I haven't done that.

It crossed my mind sometimes. But I am too scared to scare them off.