The part that is totally overlooked PUA wise is the hurt women have. I don't believe shit any more of those 'happy and loose sex encounters'. It hurts them to be used, they try it once or twice early 20's then start to protect themselves at 25.
I think a proper man, let's say dateable age, around 30, who has his life in order should have no problem finding a quality girlfriend within a week (7 days of sarging). I would consider finding a quality girlfriend much much easier than a quick fuck with the same level of quality girl. A quick fuck is for girls up to 25 or so, adventurous and all, but after that they want boyfriends and nesting. For that the man needs his mind in order, his objectives and his courage and his posture. In the end, around that age, they all worry and want babies and stuff. If you want and are able to play bastard you can use that to your advantage but it takes the twinkling (implied) promise of a relationship (personally I think that's what Tom T radiates, disclaimer I don't know him personally but he looks very ... serious baby-able material). Most single quality women have been disappointed in that and start to avoid quick lays at one point in life.
There's no better aphrodesiac than an man telling a woman (and meaning it!) "I'm shopping for a woman to have babies with" in the first part of the conversation. That's how I got my kids all right (got 2). It was the first time ever I excersiced that level of directness in life, I meant it, it happened.
I always assumed PUA was about getting laid without getting the ties though
Here's my personal position:
I consider myself not a succesful PUA because I sadly don't "bring home girls to f-close". However, a good sarge day (you know the days, a day you're on the roll which is when it's sunny, you're well rested and good spirited) leads to a harvest of one sometimes two dates. Days when things are not 'flowing' lead to zero. 'Flowing' days are 1 in 3 I'd say'. The difference is in general between a killer day and a wasted day is when I have a hint of being tired (like after work). Well rested does it for me. Tired is a state where I cut off all the impressions from the outside world and hybernate mentally. (Excersise for that is to go to central station extra tired with its total overload of that stream of people and impressions, everybody in a hurry, total electrical shortcut, and break through that. But that's a different story.)
I always aimed for same day sex, yet I?m not a wall-slammer. Couldn't even do that since I need foreplay these days
I hardly ever (let's round it off to never ever) have number closes that work out if there's not an instant date first, but as said on a well rested day I score a day2 or two. One in 3 of those leads to my house. In general I don't attempt number close any more if I don't "feel" it's solid, I always go for the instant date. I typically don't sarge 7 days per week. When I'm off for a while, the first sargeday is shit (0) then the next one is the typical double-instant-date day. Sometimes when the excitement is off I stopped pushing myself and I hardly approach which is ok. On a typical sarge day I approach 5 girls solid but I preselect enormously.
I never seem to be able to fclose when the girl is in my house first time. Big frustration. Moreover I force a breaking point ('sex or not') which always leads to a no but also a total kill of any further options with the girl so there's no second time.
I found out the nicest and most beautiful girls I took home actually just want a bf, be appreciated and loved, they just want a guy they can like and with whom things can grow. I screwed up quite a few of those because I've been just not looking for that. If I would have wanted a gf, yes, I'd have that part of my life fixed by now multiple times. Some were even explicit about that. Some of the remarks I got were explicit:
"(after kissing and makeout): god you're fast, I'd like to see you again first" (I refused to take her number to make her decide then and there, which face-off I lost)
"You did everything right, how the hell did you do that to make me end up here, but I can't have sex with you. You can choose a makeout now or have a walk with me later tonight in town" (made out, lost the girl)
"I can't have sex with you like this. That's crazy" (why not? - because that's just ... crazy...)
"I'm looking for a boyfriend" (mind you this was not a desparate case, she was ... hmmmmmm!)
This week I decided to change a few things. Took a girl home (she's 28, I'll be 43 next week) and gave her some foot massage. Then I stopped and told her "listen you're the boss and any further initiative will have to come from you fuck and sexwise". Then progressed making a meal and having a relaxed evening. My main objective was to make her leave the house with a good feeling about herself, me and the evening, regardless of sex or not. In the past I worked up girls to the breakpoint, the evening got killed by me pushing and she rejecting and that was it.
She ended up telling me she?s looking for a friend, me telling her she can?t be my gf, still the atmosphere stayed very well, had to work her out of the house to sleep. She ended up leaving with "Let's just be friends and who knows. I think I?ll keep you at bay" with me responding "In the end you'll need to keep yourself at bay, we can be company, if you try hard maybe my friend as long as you realise I'm not an enuch"
All very explicit negotiation.
So the newest thing in my world: relate. Yes, I'll try building up friendships that turn into something more. New territory for me. The difference between this and the ?lets just be friends? of when I was an insecure guy is that in current scenario I have no problem to throw in the regular request "Can I suck your titties" (to speak with Yad). So even when there's no sex, I'm not a castrate and she knows it.
To conclude, yes, I definetely think this PUA stuff can work. When you're younger it can work faster than in my case because yes, age changes the stats. Then again I'm not a student in some room any more, I have a life story, houses, cars, developed world view and am less led by my dick and more by ?needs for intimacy? which conflicts with my refusal to go steady monogamous with a girl.
My story is not congruent with Yad's but I think there's the age difference here. He's targeting up to 10 years below his age and that leads to girls under 25, 30. I target another age group, I need a woman not a girl, which unfortunately also complicates matters.
Sorry for the lenght of the post and the occasional contradictions in it but I think it paints a right picture.