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The Sofa / Top Day Game Kiss Close Videos
« on: September 20, 2012, 03:15:12 AM »
Justin Wayne's kiss close - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW-r7jwTOw4

Sasha Pua Kiss Close - http://youtu.be/Y8omK5D18j0

Liam PUA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVNqnAUN5mA

Yad PUA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFjAb-fvzPs

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The Sofa / Re: An honest review of Justin Wayne
« on: July 10, 2012, 06:18:36 PM »
I finally coached with him.

He is legit. He never said that ALL the girls know they are on the blog... He said SOME of his Girlfriends in this post know : http://justinwayneblog.com/2012/07/04/the-justin-wayne-girlfriends-documentary-infield-series/

I even met one of his GF's Elaine. She's hot as hell. in the 8-10 range. easily.She KNOWS she is on the blog...

Even if there was marketing done with comments... who care's? as long as the girls are real that's all we need to know. Also, why should he accept SPAM in his blog?

Plus, there is no proof of him behind the comments... Keep in mind, JW does have fan boys. It,s funny, you guys think that NO PUA's in TRAINING like him or will speak good of him? The minute someone says something good you think "oh it's marketing... lol.

He does not even have a product out yet.lol.

Do me a favor, YOU NAME GURU's who you think are LEGIT. I can name a million reasons why they aren't legit. Especially if they don't have a LOAD of proof.

MY  ADVICE: LEARN WHATEVER YOU CAN


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The Sofa / Re: Is anyone working the two sets ?
« on: March 30, 2012, 11:19:31 PM »
I do not really go for two sets, but here was a great breakdown with this guy who got this girl from approaching a two set that were walking...

http://justinwaynepua.com/2010/12/11/justin-wayne-field-report-2-against-1-back-to-groups/

And also this

http://krauserpua.com/category/field-reports/

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The Sofa / Re: is this site withering on the vine ?
« on: March 07, 2012, 04:24:23 AM »
I can't wait to see that product

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The Sofa / Re: Justin Wayne picks-up Angelina Jolie?...wtf??
« on: March 07, 2012, 04:22:47 AM »
I'm glad to see this side of you finally mate. And the same way you enjoy the podcasts here.. I enjoy JW's proof videos with demonstrations and analysis, that's gold to me... So I won't call you a Yad/Andy fanboy just because you enjoy a particular guru's content.

I get decent results too. I just want to improve the quality and quantity girls. Game is still a huge numbers game for me. I know people say it is a numbers game, but some people out there who are good are having to do less approaches and get high caliber women. I want my game to that level before to make up of all that time i've already invested approaching girls.

Last year Nov, I made it my mission to get this part dealt with before I move to Dubai where I can't do daygame like I can do in NYC.

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The Sofa / Re: Interesting vid: girl talks about why girls look away
« on: March 06, 2012, 10:42:47 PM »
I always felt like eye contact is a confusing thing. 

There have been many times I was gaming a girl that gave me a lot of eye contact before and nothing happened. SHe did not even give me her number.

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The Sofa / Re: Justin Wayne picks-up Angelina Jolie?...wtf??
« on: March 06, 2012, 10:39:07 PM »
HandyAndy,

I am no guru worshipper. I have been in this game for a long time and have had some 'relative' successes. I appreciate guys like Yad, Krauser, Sasha DayGame, or any other men who put up infields open to public scrutiny.

Just because I like Justin Wayne's game also, does not mean that I am not infield working hard. I have been running tireless day game for quite some time now. I am not depending on Justin Wayne for results. However, If i see a technique that can increase my chances, why not take it and investigate?

I posted this video because it was VERY informative. I was not saying "OH Justin wayne is the man because he gets hot girls more than every other guru i've seen (even though it's true within the public domain). I know a lot of local NYC PUA's who have seen Justin Wayne in action many times and all confirm.Anyways, I was just asking about the "tester" technique. Isn't that what this forum is all about? Discussing DAY GAME and all it's techniques?

Handy, you can not have a closed mind to new things. Let your hate out, and see life in a new and experimental way of learning new things. Up till now you haven't discussed the technique. You are just complaining about JW having fan boys... who cares? If he is getting so much results, of course people will respect that... It's common sense. Same thing with Yad and Krauser posting day game videos. Your game will stay the same if you let negative thoughts cloud your judgement. I have experimented with the YAD stop. I experimented with the Krauser Indirect-Direct game. I experimented with Sasha Day Game's fun mindset.

I give all these guys credit...


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The Sofa / Re: Justin Wayne picks-up Angelina Jolie?...wtf??
« on: March 04, 2012, 06:09:31 PM »
im on a mission to improve my game. i noticed you are always negative. if i see something legit... i investigate.

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The Sofa / Justin Wayne picks-up Angelina Jolie?...wtf??
« on: March 02, 2012, 05:24:33 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p2A2aUVRMI&context=C38a0864ADOEgsToPDskLy6PPuFCREe5E7rCko13HQ

So today I'm cruising on all the day game blogs like Krauser, Roosh, etc. Then I see this interesting video with JW talking about his techniques and he has demo's of 3 approachs.

The 3rd one is with this woman who looks just like the younger Angelina Jolie. I had to look twice... He goes direct and they have footage on the date too. [At the 15 min mark]

the 1st girl he went direct saying "I'm trying to get in your pants" and then he kiss her on the lips.
the 2nd girl he went indirect and then you will see the boyfriend come in.

He used to 'tester' on all 3.

Anyways, I am wondering if anyone has ever done the "tester" technique that he says he uses in Day Game..

Is it really that effective?

He speaks about it in the video. and more on his blog post. http://justinwayneblog.com/2012/03/01/justin-wayne-direct-vs-indirect-day-game-infield-analysis/

All in all, it seems to be a very informative video.

It makes sense though. Most of us just decide to stick to an opener before even knowing the women's level of receptiveness towards us. I think it is something worth looking into.

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The Sofa / Re: DAY GAME has already become OVER-SATURATED
« on: February 10, 2012, 05:45:19 PM »
Quote from: mark on February 01, 2012, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: Ror-shak on January 28, 2012, 09:45:46 PM


"Hey I say you over there and I just had to meet you"
 is the new
"who lies more? Men or Women?".

It's becoming a line, not something you genuinely feel. Saying what's really on your mind won't go out of style very quickly because it's hard as balls to do.

I think the problem is that the style of stopping and the "I just saw you over there and thought xxx" does risk becoming a line. How ever it's also the truth, I really did just notice her and I really did think xxx. I'm wondering if we'll need to start going indirect at some stage if loads of guys are running around being direct.

Many guys suggest its all about HOW you come across or simply be creative and change your opening line...

It is more than that. Here in NY union square, the girls shut you down before you can even stop them properly. It's the mere fact that you approached as a them stranger puts you in the same boat. You do not even get a chance to convey a different vibe or be creative on the opener.

Imagine if you were walking in an area where you've been approached a few times with sales men or anything at all. You will assume that the next person to approach you is like all the others and you do not have time for it.

Heck, I don't even stop for hot girls that try and stop me because they are promoting something, or i'll assume so since they've done it previously. It would not matter what their OPENING line was going to be. I do not even give them a chance since in most cases, a hot girl will not approach me on the street without needing something from me, in most cases money for a sale.

The worst part is, I am a man. Atleast if I knew that the hot girl stopped me for sex, I would say yes. Girls are way different. Even if I am approaching them for sex, if their minds are not generally open in a very short time, then it's  a no go. If they've been approached a bunch of times during the day, they generally wont give you a proper chance to be different and creative based on the fact that you approached them.

I used to hook a higher percentage of girls in daygame in 2008. Now its harder.. I thought it was my game getting worst, but its because they are catching on to this and no longer have time. W

Why do you think most pick up artists have videos with tourists? Because they are the only ones likely to stop since they are new.

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The Sofa / Re: Is daygaming worth the time ?
« on: February 10, 2012, 04:51:25 PM »
Quote from: The Zuberi on February 10, 2012, 12:58:54 PM

It reminds me of something David Shade once said: "horny men just want to get laid, they just want to get off. All they're doing is masturbating inside an object". "Sensual men, however, understand that sex isn't the only form of intimacy, they enjoy every moment with a beautiful woman, even if she is not naked in his bed." I think it's perfectly possible to connect deeply with women AND sleep with a lot of them, just look at Casanova for example.

Do you mean Casanova the blogger or the myth?


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The Sofa / Re: DAY GAME has already become OVER-SATURATED
« on: February 01, 2012, 05:44:25 AM »
I'm not talking about the occasionally girls that will inevitably talk to you. Just because she talks to you does NOT mean that it will work all the way to sex. So, if a girl talks to you it is not a win. If she has been approached a lot in daytime, she can just do it to be social or burn time. It no longer feels like serendipity.

Yes, many people do not practice it, but its the people who practice it that makes the girls aware.


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The Sofa / Re: When life gives you lemons you pick them fuckers up and throw them in to the sky
« on: January 25, 2012, 07:43:00 AM »
stay strong buddy

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The Sofa / DAY GAME has already become OVER-SATURATED
« on: January 24, 2012, 05:06:44 PM »
I've been day gaming for a bit in NYC. It seems very hard to stop women over here. I have even saw Sasha day game over here in Union Square running a mini bootcamp and he could barely stop these women.

I spoke to a few girls and they say that they ALWAYS get approached with the day game stuff. things like "Hey, i literally just saw you over there and thought you were sexy/cute/blah blah blah"

It seems to be the problem with day gamers. Even though there are a small amount of us. We still approach an INSANE amount of girls. So that is why girls are catching on to it , or just get tired of it. I guess a need to go to campuses or something.

Eventually, daygame will be over done and women's defense mechanisms will increase and we mayhave to find other means.


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The Sofa / Alpha is Greatly Misunderstood
« on: January 17, 2012, 08:00:15 PM »
Quote from: GoodLookingLoser on January 15, 2012, 07:33:26 PM
on first impression (from watching only 2 videos)-
the guy has REALLY poor style and communicates really low value (i know it's Walmart, but still haha). Biker(?) jacket, sports hat, overly baggy jeans - yuck. The hat, especially, makes him look young.

he's hitting on women that aren't available from what I've seen. They are married, despite what some PUAs say, you can't get 99% of married women to cheat with a bunch of game.

his voice speed (really fast) makes him seem a bit try hard. he's talking at the girls and not to the girls. I had an issue with this (especially when doing routines). and his voice tone (sounds feminine) isn't attractive to most chicks - why do a lot of PUAs talk this way?


Hey Chris aka GoodLookingLoser

I'd hate to be a buzz kill :) but...

This is for a purely educated point of view, but I would like to counter some of your points...

1) you say that 99% of the times guys can not get girls that are in a relationship. There is no real way for you to know that statistic. Especially, now there are PUA's that have successful shown many instances with them getting a girl with a boyfriend on video. Pua's such as Justin Wayne has clearly demonstrated this much louder than any has ever done. So I think that is a limiting belief. Is it more difficult? Yes. But it can still be done as we have recently seen this past month with those whole JW thing. Even though I do think it is MORALLY wrong what he does.Here is his morally questionable post that Handy Andy mentioned earlier here: http://daygame.com/cafe/index.php/topic,1233.0.html regarding JW post here: http://justinwaynepua.com/2011/08/18/justin-wayne-lay-report-girls-with-boyfriends-part-1/

2) You were critiquing the guy in the super market with his voice. Honestly, I think people over rate having a deep voice. Mystery is one PUA with a high voice and has laid tons of women.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1loAxTH_Jw

Also, many "pimps" and playas have do not have a deep voice, its more of a hi pitched but cool delivery. Lets look at people like.... Snoop Dogg, Kanye West, Jay Z. Even Mike tyson has a high voice but a girl will NEVER think of him as a beta. So that is a HUGE Fallacy in the community. If the guy LOOKS and TALKS like a girl, that's whole different story. However, it is obvious that girls do not criticize the depth of a voice as much as men on PUA forums. I have a deep voice and i think it sometimes even scares some girls off. Lets look at Huey Newton: his voice was not low either but got more ass all of us on the forum because it is all about his all around vibe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ypqCYPduI

Also lets not forget Joe Pesci from goodfellas who even a low voice guy can not fuck with. His video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84VqqCPI7w&feature=related

It's only in these forums where men obsess about alpha male traits where alpha is more of a vibe thing/action-based than physical characteristics. It's all about bottom-lined action and results of a man that dictates if he is alpha or not. The other stuff ( a mans voice, height, etc ) are just superficial crap that has no real standing in real life events. Look around. It's in your world. The "strong" guy does NOT always gets the girl. The tall guy is not always a lothario. The low voiced guy is not always a bad ass. Etc.

If you see a short guy beat up a big guy, who looks more alpha? The short guy

I learned this concept from a guru a year ago. It really shed some light in the situation.

Thank me later.




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