Same day F-Close?

[OG_Kdub]

Has anyone mastered day game to a point where they have successfully fclosed a girl within 30mins of the pick up. I figure you have to be incredibly prospective to read the subtle clues. What was it about the girl that made you say she will be down to go to town. Or is it one of those, I hit the lottery things?

[biglou323]

I think its definitely possible, but just 30 minutes in seems unlikely, but I suppose once you've mastered it you'll maybe find you could get away with some 30 minute f closes.

Personally, I think it would freak me out lol, a girl who opens her legs within 30 minutes for me would personally worry me. Maybe its because i'm a novice.

[Team DHC]

30 mins is not enough. You will need at least about 2 hours. You will need good logistics. And you will need to find a girl that has got nothing to do for the next few hours or for the day and just wondering around. The girl should be in a horny state as well. As Krauser said she should be ovulating. You have to bounce her at least to 2 locations. Coffee shop, and walk after that towards another location which is near your place. And you need to have a tight game so you know what is going on at every point in the interaction.

I know people who done it. But I never done it myself. I manage to bounce a girl from the street to my bedroom for a few hours but the further-est I got was to sit her on the bed and start escalating. There I lost it because my end game was not tight enough........

It is possible..... need a lot of practice so that you can learn to calibrate which girl is a bounce back and which is not.

[Tony]

Well, yes and no.

Yes, because you and her both know what you want. So if she's not up for it, she'll leave right away. With a more indirect approach you could have her 'wasting' your time.
And no, because it doesn't always work to be direct, even though some of those girls would like to fuck, but they are just taken aback by the on-the-spot need to make a decision about having sex with a complete stranger.

[Tom Torero]

30 minutes is totally fine. Yad's record is under 15.

Two short stories to encourage you to push it, if you sense it's on:

1. Earlier this year I was on the tube (metro) home from Leicester Square to where I live (15 mins away). I was with a good friend of mine and his girlfriend, sitting opposite. Next to me was a girl from Northern Ireland, heading home after a drink with friends. I chatted to her about her shoes, her vibe, her night etc. We got off at the same stop, I told her to come for coffee, we walked to my flat and 10 minutes later we were fucking on my bed. Took 25 mins.

2. In Oslo after a bootcamp I was night street gaming with Jon. He had done well and vanished with a hot blonde he met in town. I headed back to where we were staying. 5 minutes from the apartment I stopped a tall pretty local girl. We chatted for a few minutes and then I said we'd go and eat something and show her where I was staying. We drank tea in the kitchen and then I took her up to the loft room where I was sleeping and we fucked. Around 35 minutes.

Friends and wings witnessed both these lays. You just have to be able to spot when a girl is really DTF and have logistics in place. It's often a question of right-place-right-time, but you need to be out on the street for those times to fall into your lap.

Happy gaming!

TT

[kingcooper]

30 minutes is totally fine. Yad's record is under 15.

Two short stories to encourage you to push it, if you sense it's on:

1. Earlier this year I was on the tube (metro) home from Leicester Square to where I live (15 mins away). I was with a good friend of mine and his girlfriend, sitting opposite. Next to me was a girl from Northern Ireland, heading home after a drink with friends. I chatted to her about her shoes, her vibe, her night etc. We got off at the same stop, I told her to come for coffee, we walked to my flat and 10 minutes later we were fucking on my bed. Took 25 mins.

2. In Oslo after a bootcamp I was night street gaming with Jon. He had done well and vanished with a hot blonde he met in town. I headed back to where we were staying. 5 minutes from the apartment I stopped a tall pretty local girl. We chatted for a few minutes and then I said we'd go and eat something and show her where I was staying. We drank tea in the kitchen and then I took her up to the loft room where I was sleeping and we fucked. Around 35 minutes.

Friends and wings witnessed both these lays. You just have to be able to spot when a girl is really DTF and have logistics in place. It's often a question of right-place-right-time, but you need to be out on the street for those times to fall into your lap.

Happy gaming!

TT

Wow awesome Tom. Proper reality-expanding. Any input from you guys makes so much difference. Please post/blog/podcast as much as you can 

[Mr.Sociable]

30 minutes is totally fine. Yad's record is under 15.

Two short stories to encourage you to push it, if you sense it's on:

1. Earlier this year I was on the tube (metro) home from Leicester Square to where I live (15 mins away). I was with a good friend of mine and his girlfriend, sitting opposite. Next to me was a girl from Northern Ireland, heading home after a drink with friends. I chatted to her about her shoes, her vibe, her night etc. We got off at the same stop, I told her to come for coffee, we walked to my flat and 10 minutes later we were fucking on my bed. Took 25 mins.

2. In Oslo after a bootcamp I was night street gaming with Jon. He had done well and vanished with a hot blonde he met in town. I headed back to where we were staying. 5 minutes from the apartment I stopped a tall pretty local girl. We chatted for a few minutes and then I said we'd go and eat something and show her where I was staying. We drank tea in the kitchen and then I took her up to the loft room where I was sleeping and we fucked. Around 35 minutes.

Friends and wings witnessed both these lays. You just have to be able to spot when a girl is really DTF and have logistics in place. It's often a question of right-place-right-time, but you need to be out on the street for those times to fall into your lap.

Happy gaming!

TT

It would be informative if you guys can share some reports about these quick fclose's:) My quickest one, was after meeting on Day2 in 1 hour.

It think with enough spending time with approaching and closing women during daytime, we can seek women who are DTF. When I met Yad, he sometime said the same sentence "She wants to fuck" when he detected a specific set. This skill started to develope on me, but I before that I have to game more 'tight'.

[Who]

Have you ever thought these girls may simply be slags?

[Lux Lisbon]

Oh, social conditioning, social conditioning, social conditioning rears its ugly head yet again (*face palm*).

I've done it; this was only just when I was getting into the game (about six years ago), and I knew nowhere near as much about pick up and attraction as I know now.

I met a girl at a bus stop - she had been out with her friends, got into a quarrel with some guy who had been hitting on her and so decided to call it a night.

Within probably...five minutes of opening her, we were sat on the bus kissing. About ten minutes later, after we'd reached our stop, I was kissing her and squeezing her tits against the wall of the university's security building.

Five minutes later, she was on her back with her knickers and jeans wrapped around her ankles on her bedroom floor as I'm asking her if she has a condom.

She was beautiful too, and young - about twenty years younger than me. I guess she was just horny. Girls adore sex even more than men, and are just aching for guys to step up and bang them. Do you think the make-up, the perfume, the short skirts, the tight sweaters, the high heels etc. are just to impress their friends?

If you don't think this can happen, then you need to go out more or surround yourselves with guys who are really, really, really good with women.

[Lux Lisbon]

@ OG - totally correct, that is very narrow-minded.

Every girl is entitled to as much sex as any man. However, girls cannot approach every guy they fancy, like a guy can approach every girl.

Girls ache for sex and fun and adventure; they long to be approached by a guy who is cool, and confident, a guy who will not fawn over them, put them on a pedastal and be a needy, whiny little bitch. A man who goes after what he wants, is unapologetic about the fact that he wants sex, and speaks to them as a man to a woman, is extremely attractive.

So, when this actually happens, why can't a girl act on her desires? In no way does this make a girl easy or a slag.

[Who]

Have you ever thought these girls may simply be slags?

To simply think of them as slags, is pretty narrow minded...

What? you mean girls that would shag any lad they come across? It happens trust me. They are slags. Don't think of it as some sort of huge achievement to shag a slag. They exist.

The achievement is laying a very secure and respectable girl. My best friend has shagged 64 girls, but they were mostly slags and any half decent looking guy could have shagged them.

The chances fo approaching a slag are much higher than approaching a fully secure and respectable girl.

[handy andy]

What? you mean girls that would shag any lad they come across? It happens trust me. They are slags. Don't think of it as some sort of huge achievement to shag a slag. They exist.

The achievement is laying a very secure and respectable girl. My best friend has shagged 64 girls, but they were mostly slags and any half decent looking guy could have shagged them.

The chances fo approaching a slag are much higher than approaching a fully secure and respectable girl.

am i right in assuming that if you, as a man, went out and pulled a beautiful woman, who was just interested in having some great non-complicated, fully protected sex with a cool guy, that you would consider that a good thing ?  if your answer is yes, then why would you wish to deprive that exerience to an entire gender ?

there's a lot that could be said in responce to the mentality you're displaying here, but life is short and i have better things to do than list them all now, so in essence mate, grow up.

[Who]

What? you mean girls that would shag any lad they come across? It happens trust me. They are slags. Don't think of it as some sort of huge achievement to shag a slag. They exist.

The achievement is laying a very secure and respectable girl. My best friend has shagged 64 girls, but they were mostly slags and any half decent looking guy could have shagged them.

The chances fo approaching a slag are much higher than approaching a fully secure and respectable girl.

am i right in assuming that if you, as a man, went out and pulled a beautiful woman, who was just interested in having some great non-complicated, fully protected sex with a cool guy, that you would consider that a good thing ?  if your answer is yes, then why would you wish to deprive that exerience to an entire gender ?

there's a lot that could be said in responce to the mentality you're displaying here, but life is short and i have better things to do than list them all now, so in essence mate, grow up.

I know a girl who is not bad looking and at the age of 17/18 has had sex with more than 60 lads.

I know girls who purposely go out to bring back 2-3 lads each night to "do the business".

So my point is that the OP should realize that having sex with a girl on the same day may not so much about having "amazing game" and saying the right things, but likely has a lot more to do with the girls outlook on her sex life.

All my life i've been watching how naturals pickup girls and I notice that within each of their social circles the girls are very different.

For example my best friend's brother is a doorman and he's slept with about 200-300 girls. He doesn't actually know how to pickup a girl. But he's spent so much time around slaggy girls with no self respect that he has tallied up such a huge number of lays. He's had several STDs from these girls and he's just as bad as they are. I have some real horror stories about the disgusting things him and his friends have done to these girls.

You know, girls like this exist, it is fact, they walk around with STDs and will happily do the nastiest shit with anyone they come across that happens to tickle their fancy.

I just think it is important to remember this when you see field reports of "same day lays", because I would take a good bet that a large proportion of these lays happen because the girl is already open to it.

[Who]

@who
The way you make it sound is like 99% of the time if you get a same day lay, the girl is a hoe with an std.

So basically the fastest way to a same day lay is doing the apocalypse opener on every set you open daygame.

I think 99% of the time people learning pickup see same day lay field reports and imagine the girl to look like Cheryl Cole and the PUA to be some sort of hypnotizing Casanova who used magic words and techniques to seduce and lay her on the same day.

On new years day there was a party at my best friend's sisters house. There was a woman there who brought her 13 year old son and she ended up getting smashed on a trampoline after throwing herself at three other guys. Later that night she tried to ask one of the guys to come back to her house, her own son told the guy that his mum would shag him if he went. She asked that they don't wake her other kids up though, but she still shagged the second guy anyway.

She was utterly disgusting, I haven't told you the details but she had no shame at all. Utter filth! lol

But what I see is one of you guys approaching her in the street, getting the same day lay and then posting a field report. What are the chances of a same day lay being a slag or not? I'd say they're heavily tipped int he favor of them being quite "up for it", so to speak.

I think i'm losing my point now. My point is not to focus on same day lays. Just because you got laid on the same day, it doesn't mean you did everything right, you probably just found a girl who was up for it anyway.

[handy andy]

@ who

no offence mate, but your veering quite close to Travis Bickle territory with these posts. yes there are some shockers out there, but you dont need to give yourself a mohican, tool up and go out and 'clean the streets' about it all.

back on point. yeah if you want to look at being sexually adventurous in purely negative terms (eg calling them slags), then i guess you can label some women that. me i prefer the former. your examples are car-crash types, sounds like Karen Mathews type women. yeah they're fucking minging, anyone with an ounce of taste wouldnt want to park there car in their garage.

some cultures are healthier and generally have a more sexually adventurous / open mindset without being the town bike (think scandinavian for example - their classy as hell, but didnt get the victorian repression mind-pollution that is still evident in todays britain - i'm sure the 'slags' in your examples are as much an example of this as anything else).