The Alan Roger Currie VS Yad Philosophical Debate

[Kyle Daymaker]

I think its a matter of being congruent. Sasha going super direct is congruent with who he is. Yad doing his less in your face direct style is congruent for him.

I've definitely lost girls going Mode One, and I thought to myself after "Why the fuck did I do that". One of the the hottest girls I ever approached blew me out because I went Mode One on her. Initially she was receptive, but by the end of the interaction she was completely turned off.

I do tell girls how I feel about them, just not what I want to do to them. Its not congruent for me personally. I believe in going direct, being congruent, and having intent. If you wrap those 3 things together, she will know you want slay her. She will feel it radiating from you.

The last few weeks I've noticed the girls I approach are digging me so much more on a genuine level. I use the "statement-question-statement-question" conversational advice from daygame and it's helped me more then Mode One ever did. Conversations are so natural, and unforced, it's become second nature. It's a huge part of game that get's glossed over in this secular daygame world of ours. Genuinely conneting.

I do however still go M1. I usually do it when the situation is time sensitive. If i only have 45 seconds, i need to go for the gold. I can't fuck around. Running proper game just wouldn't work in that situation.

[Fish Head]

Not sure where you live ARC, but it may just be that you are stepping to the McDonalds of humanity.

I've seen/read it all and Yad is the real deal. You don't need to be offensive/abrasive/abusive/assholish to get the girl. He demonstrates that clearly.

By the way, WTF is with the 'yes, yes, yes' shit at the beginning of your podcasts?

[TantraMagnet]

Stating ultimate intention - "I am not gonna bullshit. Just saw you and thought I wanna fuck you silly."

If you open with this, don't you run the risk being arrested for sexual harrassment???

[ModeOne4Ever]

Not sure where you live ARC, but it may just be that you are stepping to the McDonalds of humanity.

I've seen/read it all and Yad is the real deal. You don't need to be offensive/abrasive/abusive/assholish to get the girl. He demonstrates that clearly.

By the way, WTF is with the 'yes, yes, yes' shit at the beginning of your podcasts?

If Yad's principles and philosphies work for him and his followers/supporters, more power to him.  Again, the only criticism of Yad I have is that he tends to fancy himself as being "direct," and he's not.  Yad, based on what I know about him, and what I've seen on video, is very INDIRECT.

The second criticism I have of Yad is that at The Direct Dating Summit UK in November 2010, he suggested that "The only women who will respond to Mode One favorably are those who are slags..."  That is bullshit.

Other than those two philosophical disagreements, I don't have beef with Yad.  To each their own.

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Alan Roger Currie's latest paperback, Oooooh ... Say it Again: Mastering the Fine Art of Verbal Seduction and Aural Sex

[ModeOne4Ever]

I think its a matter of being congruent. Sasha going super direct is congruent with who he is. Yad doing his less in your face direct style is congruent for him.

I've definitely lost girls going Mode One, and I thought to myself after "Why the fuck did I do that". One of the the hottest girls I ever approached blew me out because I went Mode One on her. Initially she was receptive, but by the end of the interaction she was completely turned off.

I do tell girls how I feel about them, just not what I want to do to them. Its not congruent for me personally. I believe in going direct, being congruent, and having intent. If you wrap those 3 things together, she will know you want slay her. She will feel it radiating from you.

The last few weeks I've noticed the girls I approach are digging me so much more on a genuine level. I use the "statement-question-statement-question" conversational advice from daygame and it's helped me more then Mode One ever did. Conversations are so natural, and unforced, it's become second nature. It's a huge part of game that get's glossed over in this secular daygame world of ours. Genuinely conneting.

I do however still go M1. I usually do it when the situation is time sensitive. If i only have 45 seconds, i need to go for the gold. I can't fuck around. Running proper game just wouldn't work in that situation.

1)  I've always told men ... Mode One is not for everyone.  You should only exhibit Mode One Behavior with women when it is genuinely congruent with your natural personality.  If it comes across as "forced" and/or "unnatural," Mode One will not benefit you.

Here is how you can generally tell if you're being Mode One, Mode Two, Mode Three, or Mode Four with women:

- When you are conversing with a woman, are you behaving in the exact manner that you truly want to?  Are you expressing your thoughts, desires, interests and intentions in the exact manner that you truly want to?  If the answer is "yes" to both questions, this means your behavior is generally representative of MODE ONE Behavior;

- When you are conversing with a woman, do you find yourself "changing" or "modifying" your behavior somewhat in order make sure that women "like" you and say "good things" about you?  Are you "cautious" to one degree or another regarding the manner in which you express your thoughts, desires, interests and intentions to women, because of a fear of being "disliked" and/or criticized?  If the answer is "yes" to both questions, this means your behavior is generally representative of MODE TWO Behavior;

- When you are conversing with a woman, do you find yourself going out of your way to "pretend" to be someone that you know deep-down, you really are not? (i.e., you present a disingenuous 'facade' to women)  Do you make every effort to hide, deny, or camouflage your true thoughts, desires, interests and intentions when interacting with women?  If the answer is "yes" to both questions, this means your behavior is generally representative of MODE THREE Behavior;

- When you are conversing with a woman, do you intentionally attempt to exhibit behavior that is mean-spirited, harshly critical, and/or purposely antagonistic?  Do you have a specific desire to be disliked by women, and leave a woman with the impression that you are an "asshole" or "jerk" whose primary objective is to give women are a hard time and make them feel bad about themselves?  If the answer is "yes" to one or more of these questions, this means your behavior is representative of MODE FOUR Behavior.

2)  I agree that Mode One is primarily beneficial in situations where TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.  Let's say I put you in a room with 25 very beautiful, very sexy women, and I guaranteed you that no less than TEN of those 25 women definitely wanted to have sex with you.  The only "catch" is, you only 2 1/2 - 3 hours to talk to all of these women in order to identify which women do want to have sex with you, and which women do not.  How would you go about conversing with each woman?

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Alan Roger Currie's latest paperback, Oooooh ... Say it Again: Mastering the Fine Art of Verbal Seduction and Aural Sex

[makebank]

MODEEEE ONEEEE!!!!

I have seen the daygame blueprint, DDS and read mode one. After reading mode one I fail to see how anyone would want to be anything other then mode one. Like ARC said mode one isnt for everyone, I hate fluff talking. But I love to watch sasha approach he fluffs a lot but theres nothing wrong with fluff either. Its a personal preference to cut straight to the point.

[zakster]

You guys can have the academic debate on what's direct vs. indirect all night. But here's where modeone has helped me: every time I find myself thinking for more than a minute about what to text or say to a girl, I think about the simple modeone advice of being straightforward.

Alan and modeone the book mainly focus on communicating your sexual desires but as a guy who is looking for awesome women to date for a few months, I find modeone even more helpful for everyday communication. A girl might suggest we grab dinner at place x; I hate place x; a part of me fears that changing venue might screw up my chances of going out with the girl; I think about modeone advice of being honest and straightforward and tell the girl that I'm not a fan of place x and instead we'll goto place y.

When I first discovered modeone few years ago, I had a real hard time being sexual. I did a half dozen modeone approaches just to get it out of the way. It changed me forever in subtle ways. I don't feel FORCED to say I'd like to fuck you; but sometimes even without trying, I'll state it. A girl last week asked me why I wanted to meet her again and I asked her "well, why do you think?". And she said "donno." And I said "well, we're going on a date, and if we dig each other we'll bang and keep dating until we're no longer banging and digging each other." She was highly amused and thought I was drunk for a second. More importantly, I didn't have to put any effort into those words. I was simply stating my honest plan with women.

The common notion is that modeone is mainly just for casual sex, mostly because that is what the community seems to focus on. But in my view, the biggest thing you can learn from modeone is that being straightforward and honest can make life really peaceful.

I'll give another example of what I'd consider modeone(may be alan wouldn't). It is something that I do. When I meet girls, I am no longer interested in their number. I am interested in meeting them again. Every so often girls offer me their number and I just chuckle. Instead, I insist on a date and time we can meet again so I can figure out if I dig her to continue meeting her. I verbalize it by calling this a date. If they say they want to be friends, I tell em "haha fuck that I dont want to be your friend"(literally). If they tell me they don't have time I tell em "haha you're fulla shit if you don't have 30 mins to spare". Ultimately, if a girl isn't willing to set up a date and time to meet me again during my approach, I will just move on.

This saves me HOURS AND HOURS of time compared to taking a number and running so-called 'text game' to get the girl out again. My text game consists of texting a girl a confirmation txt.

All said, I am not really modeone per ARC's definition. I also don't think modeone is the only way to be direct. I also think that ARC overemphasizes the fluff talk part; I personally ENJOY talking about random shit with girls I dig, only sometimes so she likes me more and at others times because I am ENJOYING the so-called fluff talk.

[ModeOne4Ever]

Generally a good post.

But if you're engaging in more than roughly 5 minutes of "Fluff talk" before you let the women know why you really approached them, and why you ultimately want to share their company, then that is not Mode One.  That would go into the "Mode Two" zone.

Now if you engage in small talk AFTER you've already expressed your romantic and/or sexual desires, interests, and intentions, then you're okay.   

[RizkyM]

Do you know who's to blame? Sasha !!!

If it wasn't for him inviting indirect guy to direct summit. This so-called debate wouldn't take place. Sorry man, I know that you and Yad and some other guys there are getting great together. But why the hell...

If it wasn't for friendship sake I know you wouldn't.

[MMH]

Time to report from the front, and I will admit I was fairly intoxicated on cider when I did this, but I thought I'd try it out anyway. I don't think it was the drink that gave me courage, before you ask. I wasn't on the pull, I was more interested in pool. Having said that, I just thought I'd try it out.

As this is night game, I'll just illustrate a point that even though I didn't sleep with this girl, it didn't go 'badly' either, and I'm sure Mr. Currie will be interested to hear this as this has helped convert me to his way of thinking, not that I had any problem being convinced as it is:

Me: "Hi. I just saw you over there and just had to come over to say that I think we should have sex..."

Her: (Too pissed to remember... sorry - probably something like this) Oh OK, why?

Me: (I think) 'Cause you're hot and I want to have sex with you.

Her: I have a kid.

Me: I don't give a fuck. I still think you're hot and I want to have sex with you.

Other Guy (her friend I think): The lady said no.

(I ignored him, the rest is a blur until the next moment described below)

Her brother then unzipped and decided to urinate beside the bar and she went off to look after him. Having said that, she was still comfortable talking to me outside the venue. Early days, but I just thought I'd try it out and well, for whoever cares, nothing bad happened.

Maybe next time I can try it when I'm not wankered... and hopefully without a drunk brother in tow. Still it was cool. Hope you all at least got a laugh out of this. Those of you who know what you're on about, feel free to give feedback.

[Rob]

(I ignored him, the rest is a blur until the next moment described below)

Her brother then unzipped and decided to urinate beside the bar and she went off to look after him. Having said that, she was still comfortable talking to me outside the venue. Early days, but I just thought I'd try it out and well, for whoever cares, nothing bad happened.

Haha this bit cracked me up. What a pisshead!

I always am direct and sometimes this type of sexual direct like your open above. I have found the older the girl the better as trying something like that on a 18/19 year old they just seem to get a bit freaked out by it as its just too much for them. A girl who is older, more mature and has more confidence will realise this sort of thing isn't much of a big deal.

[MMH]

Yeah it was pretty funny. He got kicked out afterwards, not surprisingly. She was stood outside feeling a tad anxious because he'd gone missing for a bit, then he came back without any shoes. Think she told me this was only the second or third time he'd ever been out. Needless to say, I think more pressing matters than sex entered her head at this point, among them being that her mother was going to murder her.

Did go semi - direct on a girl in Tesco yesterday who was working at the till - was on the job at the time as one of the people I look after was out shopping. Basically asked her if she wanted to meet for a coffee after work, but she said some shit about having to go and help her sister with babysitting later or whatever, but we left on good terms. I just told her I'd say hello if I saw her around. She just smiled sweetly and said "OK" (she was a 9 btw, if you care for such grading systems). We shall see...