Gavin has a point regarding the use of the term "Oriental" as posibly insulting. However it sometimes needs to be used depending on the location of the poster. For example in the US or Australia, saying to a friend that you like Asian girls, would be taken that you like Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Taiwanese etc etc...girls.
However if you were here in the UK and said the same thing, then to most people they would think you like Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan etc..girls, hence I would use the term "Oriental" to differentiate between the two.
It gets better. In Germany the term 'oriental' refers to the middle east, so even if we use that term it can still cause confusion. That said, London in the daygame capital of the world and I live in London, so we'll go by English standards. Oriental refers to Japanese, Chinese, Korean.
Anyway guys, all of us have something we're naturally really, really good at in regards to PU. One or maybe two natural qualities that we should use and develop as much as possible to make this easier on ourselves. For me, it's my dominance. I'm not a big guy at all, but I like to push girls around -- physical and emotionally. Unfortunatley, doing so to Oriental girls scares them big time. Doing so to Eastern European girls makes them super horny. So, I'm taking a break from gaming Oriental girls. Recently I had been gaming Oriental girls exclusively and I believe it's hurt my progress in the game, not only because it doesn't suit my personality, but also because there in England Orientals are, after all, a minority. Instead I'm going to focus on gaming European birds and, after getting a few notches under my belt, I'll start gaming Orientals again. All that said, here are some final thoughts on Orientals before I give up gaming them...
- The best opener with Oriental girls is a situational opener. No, not an indirect opinion opener, but a situational. Make a statement about what's going on right then and there. Case in point, I once opened a girl standing by a living statue in Covent Garden with, "Careful, he'll scare the shit out of you as soon as you get close. I'll laugh of course, but I'd feel bad for you." Basically, make it a statement and make it low pressure. The problem with direct openers with Orientals if you put a lot of pressure on them when you open direct. Speaking of which...
- Orientals aren't conditioned to deal with social pressure at all, and even if they like you a lot, if you put them under a lot of social pressure they will leave. Anything that draws attention toward you or the girl is bad. Talking too much about her too soon is bad. Other things, such as locking in or smiling a lot during the interaction, can help.
- You have to take a very, very strong lead when dealing with oriental girls. That said, you can't dominate the shit out of them like you can Eastern Europeans. An analogy Snakeskin used was to think of these girls like your little niece or little sister. Treat her like a small child. You are in control. You do whatever it is you want. You make all the decisions. But again, you can't push them around or be demanding. It has to be a fatherly, caring kind of dominance.
- Don't tell her you like Oriental girls. You don't want to be perceived as the guy with yellow fever. ( Maybe this is another reason why you want to avoid direct openers? ) Make her believe you like her for her personality, not for her slanty eyes.
- Don't play aloof or asshole game on them before sleeping with them. It will backfire. Oriental girls don't have the badboy addiction. Or if they do, they've been conditioned not to act upon their addiction.
- Random cold read fact: Chinese girls, when asked for their name, will give an English name. Koreans will give a 'Chinese sounding' name, such as Ling, Japanese girls' name have an entirely different sound; Rie, Hazuki, Yuki etc. 90% of the time you can tell what part of Asia a girl is from by her name alone. If you know a bit about Asian culture, this will help you game them since you can tailor your interaction to her nationality. Alternatively you can use it as a cold read and after hearing their name, be like "Ah, so you're Chinese."
- A lot of these girls will be really, really shy when you first meet them. They can open up later, but at first they will be scared and whatnot. Because of that, be prepared to talk, and talk, and talk, and talk.... more or less to yourself. It may take a while before the girls start investing in the interaction. I find European girls will feel a lot more comfortable talking about themselves sooner, but with Asian girls you should learn to plow.
- Random fact: Japanese girls will often stand within your personal space. This isn't an ioi. It's beacuse in Japan they have smaller personal spaces. That said, if you open a girl and she's straight away standing a bit too close, you know she's Japanese.
- Japanese girls are often ( not always ) more outgoing and westernized than the other Orientals. That means you can use physical dominance and more of your usual tactics than you could with a Chinese or Korean girl.
- In China, when a guy and a girl go out anywhere even as friends, the guy pays for everything. She may want to pay for herself as she believes European girls do, but it's a good idea to pull out your wallet for the both of you.
- Avoid negs when dealing with Oriental girls. A lot of them have insecurities about being Asian in Europe. Most of them think European girls are more attractive than they are. Negging will just reinforce this belief and send them further into their shells.
- "Good girl." Use that phrase liberally.
- If a girl has lived in the western world for a long time or was born here, game her as you would an European / American girl.
- It's not unusual to meet the girl's family very, very early when you're seeing an Asian girl. Case in point, I once went on a D2 with a girl. Mid way throught it, she says, "Oh, my Aunt's in the area. She wants to meet you." Just go with it. Show her family that you respect her and will treat her properly.
- Kiss her on the forehead.
That's all I can think of for now.
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