A depressing sight of daygame I had today....

[alex00000]

Hi,

I just registered to the forum to share my thoughts about that

Today I was on a high traffic square in London and happened to be walking next to a hot girl.
Then some guy approached her from aside and started to do every single mistakes one can imagine (body language, voice tonality, shit jokes, super neediness).
He then asked her for her phone number. I didn't think he would bother asking her number after how this one way interaction, but he did! I witnessed this miserable failure.

This made me realize how mainstream daygame has become, especially in London. After having witnessed that, I had a feeling that if I approached girls using the Yad lines on a popular street in London, I would be busted, or she would think I'm just as bad as the previous beginner who failed doing the same.

What are your thoughts on that?
Should we try and use our own lines, so we don't sound exactly the same as Yad?
I hate clubs; and the fact that daygame is now mainstream, makes me feel powerless as to how else I can meet women.

Please share your thoughts on that.
Thanks

[PhoboS]

Just go and do it and ignore shit like that.

[MMH]

That's more or less like saying that approaching girls in clubs has become mainstream. Who really cares if someone has done it to her before?

Also I don't actually think Daygame is THAT common. I have seen one guy who MIGHT have been been a Daygamer in London, but he may have just been interacting with two girls who happen to be friends. Whatever he was doing, the girls weren't running away.

It boils down to this: so what if its common? Why should that put you off? I think its great that more people are finding another means of meeting people. And regardless if she's been told she's beautiful before, a compliment is still nice whether she's heard it one time or ten times.

Don't feel powerless. I realise that it is a possible contribution to approach anxiety, but common or not, whats she going to do? Scratch your eyes out? Point at you and shout so that all of Central London can hear you and tell everyone "This is the tenth fucking person to approach me today and he's as much of a loser as all the others!" And think about how many girls there are in London or who are passing through for the day. Not all of them will have had the same approach or even been approached. If they have then maybe you can be the cool guy who stands out from all the others.

As for lines and coming up with your own? Well I understood it that lines were not something that this site was all about, though I suppose some guidelines don't hurt. But in essence its just about being real.

So in summary: don't worry about it.

[Rumba!]

I work in the centre of London and go out during lunchtimes, weekends, evenings and in all that time I've only seen one other day time approach, so like MMH says, I wouldn't describe daygame as being "mainstream" at all. I remember being in a bar one evening and a mate of one of my friends had just read "the game". Now bear in mind, this wasn't when it just came out this was only about a year or so. He went up to loads of girls doing all the stuff from the book (jealous g/f routine, who lies more? etc..) and he wasn't called out on it once!!

It sounds to me that you have taken what happened to this guy and are using it to stop yourself approaching. I mean, he may have been shot down but at least he made an attempt! The fact is that you should only be using whats shown here as a guide; the lines used are meant as an encouragement, NOT a script. You have to believe whats coming out of your mouth because if you don't then the girl certainly won't! Work on being confident in yourself and you will find stuff to open the girl with, even if it's just "Hi, great day, isn't it?". Remember it's not what you say but how you say it!
Worry less about stuff you can't control, and work on stuff you can!

Peace,
Rumba! 

[alex00000]

Hi everyone,

Thanks for your positive thoughts on this. I read your posts carefully and understand your point.

Thanks again

[Rob]

Yeah man the other guys are right. The way I see it is even if this does get as mainstream as approaching girls in bars/clubs (it wont) it will be the guys who have put the work in and do the solid approaches that get the results just like in bars ad clubs.

Just focus on your own skill set and even if she gets approached a lot, if she likes you and your approach then its all good

Guys still and will carry on getting laid from the bar/club environments.

[Rick]

I work in the centre of London and go out during lunchtimes, weekends, evenings and in all that time I've only seen one other day time approach, so like MMH says, I wouldn't describe daygame as being "mainstream" at all. I remember being in a bar one evening and a mate of one of my friends had just read "the game". Now bear in mind, this wasn't when it just came out this was only about a year or so. He went up to loads of girls doing all the stuff from the book (jealous g/f routine, who lies more? etc..) and he wasn't called out on it once!!

It sounds to me that you have taken what happened to this guy and are using it to stop yourself approaching. I mean, he may have been shot down but at least he made an attempt! The fact is that you should only be using whats shown here as a guide; the lines used are meant as an encouragement, NOT a script. You have to believe whats coming out of your mouth because if you don't then the girl certainly won't! Work on being confident in yourself and you will find stuff to open the girl with, even if it's just "Hi, great day, isn't it?". Remember it's not what you say but how you say it!
Worry less about stuff you can't control, and work on stuff you can!

Peace,
Rumba! 

Completely agree. On the bootcamp, out of a whole day of day gaming (on a saturday afternoon with several other PUA groups also approaching in the same area) I only bumped into one girl who said she'd been approached already.

I'd say forget all that and just go for it.

[MMH]

For the sake of personal confidence of this guy, can you tell us what her reaction was to this second approach in the day? I reckon it would be helpful to know, as I'm sure it was anything but negative.

[Rick]

No worries, she just said 'I've already been approached today, I have a boyfriend, are you guys in a club or something??' (she was laughing at this point),

I just said 'yes, would you like to join?' to which she laughed some more and kept walking.

It was pretty much like a charity worker rejection and I never had another response as bad as that throughout the rest of the weekend.

I'd say not to let it worry the OP. Just keep going for it and say something silly (anything) to make it less awkward.

[CaryGrant]

Today I was on a high traffic square in London and happened to be walking next to a hot girl.
Then some guy approached her from aside and started to do every single mistakes one can imagine (body language, voice tonality, shit jokes, super neediness).
He then asked her for her phone number.

Doesn't sound to me like he was a PUA at all, as you said he made all the mistakes so you don't have to worry really. Its not just PUAs that approach women on the streets, other guys try to do it too but only PUAs/daygamers do it right.

Try to stay away from the popular places if you're worried though about opening women who have been approached before. Having said that I opened a girl who had been approached 3 or 4 times that day in Covent Garden (there was a bootcamp that day) and she was fine with it. Other girls I've opened say that it happens "all the time!!" but so long as you're genuine, polite and sincere about it it shuold be OK.

And dont say Yad's 'line' exactly word for word. I personally never use, "can i tell you something really quickly?" (cos it invites her to just say NO) but I do use other pre-openers. Also you can change "you look really nice" to just about anything really: you look really stylish/cute/pretty/cool/fashionable/lovely.

Obviously there will be some girls who just dont like being opened, opened and opened no matter how good you are at it and will walk away from you as soon as they smell what you're about to say. But hey, we're all straight men who see attractive women who we wish to compliment. So what? Just remember there ARE women who love it, in fact only a minority are botghered by it.