anyone been on puahate.com?!

[sjs16]

Hey guys  i was just on the web and found this site called www.puahate.com!Can anybody tell me why these guys are so against all of this because I would love to know!

[Rob]

Yeah I have seen it and its pathetic. My guess is they are guys who got into pickup and then gave up because they thought it was too hard so now hate on everyone else who are into it.

I cant even understand why someone would go through the time and effort to actually make that site.

[MMH]

I sort of can. People spend a lot of time on the internet and are fantastic at procrastinating. Building slanderous websites is one way in which they do it. What I don't get is why anyone can be bothered to pay any attention to it. But then I can't really be bothered with forums as a general rule - aside from this one, the only other place I post is a heavy metal forum, and even then that's rare.

I think part of it is likely people feeling bitter towards PUA for the aforementioned reasons, but also bear in mind there are also men who support feminism and politically correct behavior towards women. I myself don't actually define myself as a 'PUA' either as I feel I've outgrown such categorizations and don't much care for them. However to say that I 'hate' or want to belittle people that do consider themselves as such is really not within my interests, I just don't really hang out with any nor communicate with any outside this website, nor do I wish to.

[Charleston]

I think that there's an extent to which pickup will always have a bad reputation in some peoples eyes. Firstly, theres the inherent problem that people think that skill with girls is something that you are resigned to or determined by external factor. People don't like to be told that ultimately, they are responsible for success. Or that the nice car that they spent countless hours working hard to acquire doesn't attract women.
Secondly, I don't think we do any favours for ourselves. We take in a lot of people with little social intelligence, they get quick fix solutions and come out as routine spouting wierdos. Furthermore there are sham gurus, or ones who get frequently misunderstood. Finally, even the best teachers in the world can't provide you with the reference experiences required to go from a nebulous set of concepts and theories to a hard, usable skillset.
I think together these things breed a lot of disillusionment both within the community and larger society.

[RizkyM]

If I was someone who has spent more than 10.000 $ on these motherfuckers who claimed that they know the secret of easily bedding the women within 5 minutes of meeting them, rejection-proof openers, and all those fucking stupid marketing spells that you have fallen into, and then later on I've found out that they are actually full of fucking shit, and none of that shit fucking work, then I would definately join the dark side.

Women are easy, really dude, all you need is courage.

Fucking balls. That's it.

She is there, and you are there, just go over and say hi.

I once read about some guy there who wrote a thread about being "ripped off" by some major dating company... Details are irrelevant, but Shit, I almost puke my ass off. Until now, I still can't believe how fucking stupid that guy was.

I once studied Mystery and his system, but hell, let me ask you,  can you control and manipulate something as complicated and as dynamics as social situation? That's fucking impossible. How the fuck did you do that? No matter how much DHV you have conveyed there is always someone who would interrupt or any other things that ruin your game, there is too much variables. All of which will only take you further away from the first thing that you want. A pussy.

I believe it should be easy... Really. Once a nerd forever a nerd. They tried to make things easier by making a system out of it. C'mon it's not math.

But can a nerd being loved by somebody? Yea sure. Why wouldn't? Why? If she doesn't want you for who you are, tell her to fuck off, go find someone else. No girl wants you? That is impossible. You just doesn't want the hard work. And if you doesn't want to work at it. You deserve no love. Now what work? Simple, hitting on girls and get embarassed, grow your balls. Until one of them wants to be with you.

[Ror-shak]

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[craze6663]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjy_7haflaM

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story of my life!

[Lord Vader]

Honestly I don't really mind puahate.com

I mean, the more guys that think game is crap, the less do it, thus more girls for me, right?

[kbird]

I think its the best "pua" site on the web. (not trolling)

A lot of fraud would go unmediated without PUAHATE.
so many people are willing to profit from peoples insecurities, and PUA is perfect for that.

before I believe any major advice or concept I check PUAHATE.
one should hear all sides of a story and not blindly have faith in something.

some realistic facts of life

• looks, height, fame, ethnicity, wealth & penis size all matter
• you cant be a "late bloomer" and become a ladykiller with practice, just like you couldn't start playing tennis at age 20 and hope to be world champion in 10 years. you need natural talent and an early start
• cold approach is a terrible & inefficient way to meet women for guys who have no other option
• most "professional PUAs & Gurus" are and always will be chodes

[Rob]

some realistic facts of life

• looks, height, fame, ethnicity, wealth & penis size all matter
• you cant be a "late bloomer" and become a ladykiller with practice, just like you couldn't start playing tennis at age 20 and hope to be world champion in 10 years. you need natural talent and an early start
• cold approach is a terrible & inefficient way to meet women for guys who have no other option
• most "professional PUAs & Gurus" are and always will be chodes

I think you're on the wrong website mate.

[kbird]

I think you're on the wrong website mate.

oh right, let me correct myself.

*personality*,looks, height, fame, ethnicity, wealth & penis size all matter

and I love cold approach & game, but I just dont like some of the lies & false promises some PUAs give.
social conditioning exists in all societies, including the pickup society. Robs tagline "Dont be a sheep..." goes both ways. one could also be a RSD,daygame.com,MysteryMethod etc sheep.

luckily daygame.com is the most real IMHO, but they are still selling a product and romanticizing something for their agenda. like the shiny TV big mac vs the real thing :p

[Rumba!]

but they are still selling a product and romanticizing something for their agenda. like the shiny TV big mac vs the real thing :p

Yes but thats marketing, as I commented below on another thread here:

All the PUA advice out there are ignoring one important factor which can override other factors which is looks/race. PUA companies wants you to believe that with great game you can get super attarctive women regardless if your looks, money or status.
Yeah, to a certain extent this is true and as I said in my last post there are some girls who only go for guys of their own race, age etc.. Now this isn't the norm but it would be wrong to say it doesn't exist. A lot of what companies say is marketing hype. It looks a lot better on a companies site to say how "by following our system, you?ll be shagging nympho porn stars in Starbucks within two weeks!" rather than "well, we can give you all the tools and advice but bottom line, it?s ultimately down to the girl if she sleeps with you"

puahate.com generally aren't being subjective. Although the odd poster will try and balance his argument, most of the responses range from the 'all guys need to do is just say hi to the girl' type comments to the 'anyone who needs help talking to girls is a f---ing f-g!!!' responses.

one could also be a RSD,daygame.com,MysteryMethod etc sheep.

True, and a lot of guys will just blindly follow what the above companies tell them. But unless the guy has ZERO self-confidence, they should decide for themselves if it works and if not try something that does work for them. The reason guys keep doing that is they feel because they were told girls like it, then they must be doing it wrong and keep doing it wrongand then dig themselves into a hole, by coming off weird, strange or creepy!?!

On this site for example there seems to be some belief that making assumptions about a girl is some Jedi-like mind trick that will get a girl to fancy you. NO IT WONT!!
Assumptions are just a way to find a topic that you can chat to the girl about and perhaps find a commonality, like you both went to Barcelona last year or you both like Salsa etc?
But I read guys saying how they made one assumption, then made another and when you read some examples, you can see why the girl made her excuses and left!?!!

If things don?t seem to work, change to something that does!

Peace,
Rumba!