Why is it..

[The Zuberi]

that there are guys who aren't particularly goodlooking, wealthy, or high up the 'social value ladder', generally not assertive as a whole, but still end up in relationships with fantastic women?

I've wondered about this whole me life. It used to be jealousy, fuck, it might still be some jealousy, though I don't want to be in a relationship right now. It's not that I think they don't deserve them or that I'm 'better' or whatever, Im talking about the general trend here. For me, I wish it sometimes just 'happened' that for whatever reason, a girl just fancies you out of the blue and gives you a call, text or whatever, but unfortunately this has never happened.

And I still can't seem to figure out why, because if I knew why, then you could master both active game (daygaming) and passive game. Does anyone recognize what Im describing here? We're always talking in the 'pickup community' about 'being alpha, a leader, assertive, etc etc.' meanwhile you see soo much contradictory evidence around you because what Im suspecting here is that once you've taking this 'alpha' role, it is expecting from you to take the initiative, every single time.

But then again, if I look at myself I certainly wasn't an 'alpha dog' or 'assertive' guy in highschool, and I still had to 'make stuff happen'.

How do you guys feel about this because there must be guys out there that know exactly what Im talking about.

[spinaroonie]

Women are slaves to their emotions. Once you figure out how to push the right buttons you realize they're not too difficult to manipulate towards a desired end.
 
IMO "game" comes down to
1) knowing the sexual marketplace
2) understanding female evolutionary psychology
3) exhibiting psychosexual dominance

The men who are best with women have an acute understanding of these three facets - whether naturally or consciously through learning "game".

Roissy is the best example of an analytical player.

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

^ The above was written by a man that clearly understands the base nature of women.

[BeStrong]

99.9% of such couples are guys from girl's social circle. Since she doesn't have much choice she'll end up with some looser even if she is 7+(hot).

[nj]

Concern yourself with only that which you may control. You can't really learn behaviours for an infinite amount of scenarios.

Considered deceptively alpha?

Does walking and acting like alpha make you alpha.

[MMH]

I don't even know/care what 'alpha' is anymore anyway. But I understand what you're asking, and to be honest, I don't know. Maybe they have a mysterious edge to them and listen a lot to the girl in their social circle and the girl likes that. Or maybe its just because they are true to themselves, whereas many 'alpha males', such as those found in the 'PUA scene' are more interested in posturing and just try too hard. Maybe the girl is insecure and doesn't believe she can get any better. Maybe these guys aren't 'alpha' at all, but know when to make a move on a girl and are not afraid to do so.

At the end of the day it could be all, some or none of these things. Part of the beauty of daygame is that its all about being yourself, and maybe that's what these guys are good at. Either that or they're with him until 'something better comes along'.

It is better you don't be a bedroom psychologist and don't think about it and get on with things your own way, while taking in the advice given via this website on a few fundamentals.

[handy andy]

i gotta agree there. there's far too much 'be alpha' stuff around these days, and unless you are naturally that way inclined, then it can fuck up a lot of guys heads. i know this younger guy who got into pick up around 19 (when his personality wasnt really fully formed, lived at home, had hardly much life experience etc) and all of a sudden he was trying to act 'alpha' and 'dominant' and just came across as a total wanker and a laughing stock.

veering off topic slightly i really think a lot of game should be left alone til people are emotionally mature enough to have it not turn them into tossers.  thankfully the daygame aspect of it is a much mellower affair. i think you could drop the word alpha and replace it with masculine. instead of 'be alpha' just be masculine and comfortable with that.

[MMH]

I can see some of myself in the above statement as I discovered this whole thing at about 19 and made some of the mistakes mentioned. I have done far better actually when just being a good listener and knowing when to make a move, taking interest in what the other person has to say. And honestly the whole AMOG thing, it has happened, but it only works for the other guy if the girl doesn't like you. I have had one guy try it with me when I was talking to a girl at a house party. She told him to fuck off.

If I were to add to this, I'd be repeating what I'd already said in a previous post. In fact I am currently making a concentrated effort to kill off that unfortunate side effect of being deluded I had to follow such nonsense.