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Author Topic: Tips on approaching from the front  (Read 1773 times)

Offline Amazin

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Tips on approaching from the front
« on: November 11, 2011, 11:10:09 PM »
Some of you might call it "the Yad stop". I have always approached from the side and I've come to a conclusion that approaching from the front is the way foreward and project more manliness.

Any tips? I tried it today and they still try to walk pass me. Do I need to literrally block their path or something? what distance should I keep when I turn around?


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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 11:14:59 PM »
Run past them by at least three metres, turn around so that you are directly facing them in the direction that they are heading, look them in the eye and smile. Ensure that your back is straight, that you are relaxed and gently hold up one or both of your hands and say your line slowly and clearly. They usually stop.

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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 10:16:35 PM »
Good question but I think what your supposed to do is let her pass you, turn around and do the YAD stop.

From what I gather if you approach head on you come across as  a solicitor.

what do you mean let her pass you? thats no longer approaching from the front. Btw, I tried it again today and its not easy. Especially with fast moving sets.

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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 01:12:34 AM »
From what I gather if you approach head on you come across as  a solicitor.
ALWAYS approach from the front, head on. If you don't you are WEAK.

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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 05:56:27 AM »
Good question but I think what your supposed to do is let her pass you, turn around and do the YAD stop.

From what I gather if you approach head on you come across as  a solicitor.

what do you mean let her pass you? thats no longer approaching from the front. Btw, I tried it again today and its not easy. Especially with fast moving sets.

lace up your trainers tightly haha


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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2011, 12:18:20 AM »
You can approach from the front but most chicks will just side step you like Messi does to defenders and leave your ankles swollen.

yep, happened to me few times especially if they're in their own bubble.

I think their "Walking language" can be categorised in slow-fast, Friendly-miserable, Present-in their own world.

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ALWAYS approach from the front, head on. If you don't you are WEAK.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Women have little respect to weak men. Please believe me when I say that. Some are concious of it and some might not but that doesn't make any difference. Imagine this:

You're a CEO of a huge company. You earning ?6m a year and you work your ass off. Every sec of your time is valuble and most likely to be more valuable than any S(super)HB100 you will ever meet in your life. When you finally get some free time to get away from the office to do some day game, are you just going to let her brush you off like that? e.g. sorry I gtg, ignore you, I'm in rush etc. A man should never let a woman disrespect him like that.

In reality, the girls you meet in central will be busy especially the hot ones with good social life. Thats why I think it is so important to get into the front and get her to commit to the interraction. Juggler also suggested the same. Its like chopping a piece of wood in Karate. You will most likely to hurt yourself if you're not fully commited.


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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2011, 02:22:31 AM »
yea dont do that....actually when im not even approaching and just asking for direction to a female they just go no and side step but they turn back and say "oh sorry so and so avenue is that way"

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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2011, 12:00:54 PM »
what do you mean let her pass you? thats no longer approaching from the front. Btw, I tried it again today and its not easy. Especially with fast moving sets.

You see a girl walking towards you, right? Let her walk right past you.
Then turn 180 degress and jog towards her from behind but dont stop.
As you enter her peripherral vision say "excuse me" (no need to touch her) and keep jogging ahead of her a few paces (giving her plenty stopping space) and then stop to turn and face her and DIRECTLY BLOCK HER PATH.
Signal her to stop using your hands, palms down.
Immediately launch into your pre-frame and opener. Speak slow, relaxed and neutral voice tone.
Stand your ground and be rooted. Do not move. EXPECT her to stop. (Do not start walking backwards if she doesnt stop).

If they don't stop, don't follow them. That's creeeeeeeeepy.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2011, 01:26:52 PM by CaryGrant »

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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2011, 12:03:33 PM »
actually when im not even approaching and just asking for direction to a female they just go no and side step but they turn back and say "oh sorry so and so avenue is that way"

That's just their kneejerk reaction. I find people wont stop for you (when asking directions) unless you say what you're gonna say straight away. People are scared of strangers on the street and they are thinking, "I don't know this person so there's no real reason why he shuold be stopping me. He's probably trying to either sell me something or ask for change. Those are the only two options. If he was asking for directions he would just come out with it already."

My friend was standing on the street with me and another friend.  A girl walked past and he said "oh excuse me...". She looked at him but she kept walking. Why didn't she stop? Because he didn't just come out with his opener immediatly and plus there were 3 of us guys standing there and she probably was intimidated. He said 'excuse me' and thought that she would just stop. Why would anyone do that on the street? Its a dangerous place. She didnt stop because he didnt give her a JUSTIFIABLE REASON to. He should have just said his opener IMMEDIATLY and not waited for her to stop.

Imagine when you want to know the time and you ask someone in the street. Do you say "Excuse me..." and wait fior them to stop OR do you just ask, "Excuse me. Do you have the time?"
« Last Edit: November 15, 2011, 12:42:25 PM by CaryGrant »

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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2011, 08:36:08 PM »
the best way if you have to is to say your cute keeping eye contact as you pass by, if she answers turn around and open completely...this works, not as often but it works...actually my wing got a kiss close last Saturday and another one got laid doing that before..i dont open like that but if I had to i would do da


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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2011, 12:30:48 AM »
what do you mean let her pass you? thats no longer approaching from the front. Btw, I tried it again today and its not easy. Especially with fast moving sets.

You see a girl walking towards you, right? Let her walk right past you.
Then turn 180 degress and jog towards her from behind but dont stop.
As you enter her peripherral vision say "excuse me" (no need to touch her) and keep jogging ahead of her a few paces (giving her plenty stopping space) and then stop to turn and face her and DIRECTLY BLOCK HER PATH.
Signal her to stop using your hands, palms down.
Immediately launch into your pre-frame and opener. Speak slow, relaxed and neutral voice tone.
Stand your ground and be rooted. Do not move. EXPECT her to stop. (Do not start walking backwards if she doesnt stop).

If they don't stop, don't follow them. That's creeeeeeeeepy.

thanks for the detailed description. I asked that question because I often approach if a girl looks good from behind so there is no her walking pass me, lol. I have a friend who's quite good at day game, he sometimes follow girls as part of him being persistent. I don't think there's any golden rules which we should follow in ALL situation.

Like I said, I think it is sooo important that we BLOCK their path and get them to commit. Otherwise they will treat us like nobodys. This is also a good way to demonstrate the strength of our character.

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People are scared of strangers on the street and they are thinking, "I don't know this person so there's no real reason why he shuold be stopping me. He's probably trying to either sell me something or ask for change. Those are the only two options. If he was asking for directions he would just come out with it already."

thats not always the case mate. They could be thinking 100s of other thing depend on how you come across. I do find it useful to come across as someone who about to ask for directions, lol That explains why Yosha stop works. You're tricking them thinking you just want directions and it makes them feel good about themselves because they are helping someone.

I'm under the impression that some of you still too worried about what others might think of you. I think need to believe in what we do if we want to successed. A successful approach is no different


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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2011, 10:25:35 AM »
That explains why Yosha stop works. You're tricking them thinking you just want directions
:o Its an odd way to stop someone just to ask for directions, isn't it? If you want directions why did you have to run around HER? You could ask directions off anyone else just simply walking towards you. You dont jog over to someone and chase them down to ask for directions.

The Yosha/Yad stop works because NO ONE jumps out infront of random people like that (without a good reason). The stop shows that you specifically wanna stop THAT particular person.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2011, 10:30:39 AM by CaryGrant »

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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2011, 10:48:03 PM »
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Its an odd way to stop someone just to ask for directions, isn't it? If you want directions why did you have to run around HER? You could ask directions off anyone else just simply walking towards you. You dont jog over to someone and chase them down to ask for directions.

Yad and Yosha stop are not the same! Yosha stop is the one where you approach from the side, then point toward at the back as if she just dropped something before you go direct. Bit cheeky but it works!

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The reason a frontal approach is difficult is most women walk with ear buds on or talking on the phone. When you approach from the front the 1st thing they think, you want to hand them a flier or your working for some Charity cause those people always approach you from the front.

It might be difficult but it is certainly a manly thing to do. I've seen people done it and it definitely command attention.

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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2011, 11:28:02 PM »
I don't think you have to think about meters, in front of ... just think as if you just saw an old friend and that you going relentless to talk with them making a little surprise by coming from the front. Just focus your mindset as that ... that little cute girl that you wanna approach, just imagine that you know her and that she will feel surprise as much as happy to talk to you ... when you frame things like that all becomes easy ... and then when you stopped her, just say something. ;)

Chances are if you stopping her from the front she will stopped at least to hear what you have to say ...
« Last Edit: November 17, 2011, 12:06:02 AM by Le-Diplomate »

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Re: Tips on approaching from the front
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2011, 10:18:11 AM »
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Its an odd way to stop someone just to ask for directions, isn't it? If you want directions why did you have to run around HER? You could ask directions off anyone else just simply walking towards you. You dont jog over to someone and chase them down to ask for directions.

Yad and Yosha stop are not the same! Yosha stop is the one where you approach from the side, then point toward at the back as if she just dropped something before you go direct. Bit cheeky but it works!

Yes, I know they're not the same. But you said the approach tricks the girl into thinking you're asking for directions, it doesn't. Yosha's pointing stop just mis-directs the girl, it doesnt trick her into thinking you're gonna ask directions at all, nor does Yad's stop.